They from the start tell you how your idea sounds great and (salesperson) would love to have this product. But when you pay their upfront payment (for me was $5,600) they never get back to you. They tell you they will try to sell to a company, make it sound like they will sell idea, but then never call. For over 1 1/2 years I waited (Patiently). No call. I call them. They said "Company not interested, " so I said "Why you not trying elsewhere?" They said "Will cost extra money." I told them "Last person I talk to said they would try other companies." She said (licensing department) that person no longer works there. I know I can't get my money back. I want others to know that this company is a total scam.